Comments on:States with Corporal Punishment in SchoolCorporal punishment is legal in 22 states. Would you support its use at your child's school?
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Comments on:States with Corporal Punishment in SchoolCorporal punishment is legal in 22 states. Would you support its use at your child's school?
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In school we are not allowed to send out of class a student if he/she is disturbing the lesson, we don't have detention, we can suspend or expelled a student for bad behaviour (like drugs, beating, sex) but only after a council decide this.
But in most cases this doesn't resolve the problem, because we don't have the support from the parents. For the student, this is only another holiday.
If they are expelled, their parents will sue the school and the student eventualy will come back to school (because the law says that it is mandatory to finish 10 grade.)
Few months ago, one of my collegue was slaped several times by a pupil, in class The result.... the teacher was faired because she also hit the pupil, the parents had to pay 100$ fee, the parents sued the school and he will be student again at the same school in the next year. Sorry, I don't say that I agree with the corporal punishemnt in school, but in this cases I will hit as well because I believe that I have the right to defend myself.
As a child, I was never punished, grounded, beated, yelled by my parents, but at school I was punished (including corporal punishment) and I'm OK, I don't hate that teacher, I don't think that he harmed me in any way, I learned my lesson and I respect him for that.
There were about 12 parent chaperones on this trip and 2 teachers. I have never seen such disrespect and general awfulness in my life. I was pushed, shoved told to move/get out of way, yelled at, CURSED at and given the "stare down". I had another parent say that the kids made her cry! Everytime she asked or told them to do something they mimicked her and laughed and kept doing what they wanted. The bus drivers were ticked because the kids trashed the bus- food and empty drink containers thrown everywhere.
I feel I can hold my own ground, they do not scare me or intimadate me at all. I know this age group feels the need to prove their maturity levels and independence- but this was neithr of those- this was the utmost disrespect. Not all kids acted this way, about 5% were behaved- and were made fun of by the other kids. They were told to quit acting like mothers and learn to have some fun! FUN!!!????
We went to a restuarant for dinner, and the waitress asked for them to please quiet down so she could explain some things and a child told her to "sit down and shut up"- disrespectful. The teachers would get us in groups and go over agenda, rules, etc and they would talk over top of them and just laugh when told to be quiet. I had a 13 yr old girl sitting behind me on the bus that had the most horrid mouth I have ever heard. Every other word out of her mouth was the F-bomb. I kinda laughed it off the first few times, saying to watch the language. By the 3rd time I said "I feel Im pretty laid back and can tolerate alot but the one thing I will not tolerate is cursing- please clean up your language", she just looked at me and went back to talking. I heard more curse words and again said- please watch the language. At that point she thought it was a game- she cursed more and louder; she informed me if her mother can use that word then she can also and there was nothing I could do about it. I choose to ignore her for awhile to see if she was just trying to get attention, look cool in front of her friends. It finally turned into her cursing and calling other kids on bus dirty names, and also a discussion on douching (that was disgusting); at this point I lost my cool and turned to her and said very loudly, calmly and clearly "if you can not say a sentence without using a curse word in it, please shut your mouth"; she didnt quite know what to say, but she tried to give me the evil eye stare down, which I just smiled and told her that I have one of her at home and her look didnt intimidate me and to get over herself. She then sat back there for the next 30 minutes and went on about what a b**** I am, and I think Im so much better than her and Im not her mother and cant tell her what to do and how my daughter will pay for my mistakes. I just let it go from there, decided this is now out of my hands and I will let a teacher deal with it. I had no back up from other chaperones on bus as I was in back, and 2 others were in middle/front of bus and could night hear her over the other kids. I was unable to talk with the teachers after the trip as they were unloading equipment and talking with hundreds of other parents,but I have drafted an email to him and hope to have him follow up. I feel if there was some sort of repercussions for their actions, or a thought of one (instead of detention or in school supension, which is a joke)that maybe they would be a little better. The whole no hitting because it is child abuse, is now a battle cry for them- they use it to their advantage in some cases, along with what are you gonna do, hit me?
I know I will never volunteer for a trip ever again- I may go along and support my child, but I will not torture myself with this sort of verbal abuse and disrespect from children again. If mine gets out of line, I can punish her, or if need to, smack or spank her. These other children I can not punish and they know that.
Again- these are the good kids in school, and I have seen their parents fawn over their "perfect little angels"- if the only knew!